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out there and he's tied to air community then great. that's exciting. >> i'm the director of the breadth of county public library. i'm the public information officer for the jackson fire department. i'm also remembered the jackson city council stephen bowling knows j.d. >> vance and his family and says they have come in the county library frequently over the years as far as the book that helped give j.d. vance fame, it certainly caused interest to be placed upon the mountain folks, but only time will tell if that is a positive or a negative light. >> at the studio six salon and jackson owner lloyd roberts has watched the hillbilly ellegy movie that came out in 2020 based on what you know about him, based on the movie hillbilly elegy, what do you think? >> and i over his son's fiance, who is the salon manager, has also seen the movie, but feels differently. >> so you haven't decided who you're going to vote for, or even if you're going to vote so it doesn't give you some extra pride that you say i'm going to vote for him? no, it doesn't know.

>> salon customer free banks is keeping her political eyes open. >> well, i'm undecided. i'm what i'm going to new. but, you know, it's it's just feels kind of good knowing that somebody from this community or somebody that has been in this community is going to be running for vice president john many of the people we've talked to here are intrigued about the possibility of kamala harris picking the democratic kentucky governor andy beshear, to be her running mate now people close to the process say he is not in the top tier of candidates but he is still being considered. >> but the potential of that happening of two men with kentucky ties running against each other to be vice president of the united states is certainly the topic of conversation here in jackson john gary tuchman, thanks. >> the news continues, right here on cnn outfront. >> next, new details and reporting on kamala harris his

vp there is one name, trump and vance are already attacking this as harris makes history tonight, the first woman of color to lead a national ticket plus americans back on us soil about to head to their own home for the first time. tonight, i'll speak to an american who survived two years in a brutal prison abroad. his advice to the americans just-freed and an outfront exclusive john hinckley junior, who tried to assassinate ronald great again, is now calling for an end to political violence. and his first interview since trump's intended assassination. >> let's go outfront good evening, i'm pamela brown in for erin burnett and outfront tonight, breaking news, harris makes history. vice president kamala harris officially locking down the democratic party's nomination after securing the required number of delegates harris is now the first black woman and asian

american to earn the top spot on a major political ticket we are excited about the future, but we also know that we got a lot of work to get there and we have a lot of work to do. >> it's good work. we like hard work and president biden is responding by posting online, one of the best decisions i've made was picking kamala harris as my vice president now that she will be our party's nominee, i couldn't be prouder. let's win this. >> today's milestone comes as all eyes are now on who harris will pick as her running mate. >> it is one of the most important decisions she will make leading up to the convention and biden is weighing in have you spoken to vice president harris about her running yes. >> i don't you will spend a fight. >> before? >> what few qualities to the flight from the people what her work that harris is he made

visiting seven battleground states in just five days, starting with pennsylvania and that brings us to one of the top contenders for harris as vp pick pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, who today came out swinging against the trump ticket j.d vance is a total phony baloney. he is the most inorganic candidate. i think i have ever seen on the national stage. he doesn't know what he believes donald trump really has buyers remorse with his pick well, clearly shapiro not holding back there as trump is already taking him on if she picks shapiro, she's going to lose the palestinian vote and jay lee is outfront live right outside the white house and mj, you're learning some new details about the vp surge and what president biden thinks

about the top vp the contenders that's right. >> pam, as of tonight, we are told that the harris campaign actually doesn't have a set time or even day yet on when exactly please. they're going to unveil vice president harris is eventual running mate pick, as she heads into this pivotal weekend, where she is going to be interviewing her the top contenders and making that decision by the deadline of tuesday, because that is when she will have that first joint campaign event with her future running mate but one person who has clearly been in the vice presidency here is president biden, though as you showed there, he was coy when reporters asked him, well, how have those discussions gone, but but we do know is what the president actually thinks about some of these top contenders that we have been reporting on we do know that one well-known favorite president biden, according to advisors, is up pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, as one senior adviser, put it to me bluntly, the president is a big fan of

shapiro's and given also pam, just that the president clearly sees pennsylvania as being one of the most important battle the ground states heading into november, just as it was in 2020 for some advisers here at the white house, it's really impossible to imagine the president really up privately rooting for any anybody but shapiro, that is anyone other than perhaps minnesota governor tim walz. the most obvious reason as this adviser that i spoke with described to me is simply because he is just a blast and i want to use an event from back in january to illustrate this point. and illustrate why he is seen that way. inside the white house, among some advisors the president was in wisconsin for an infrastructure event and walz happened to be one of the democratic elected officials what is that joined the president on this day. the president spoke at a brewery and then the group all migrated next door to a tap room where beers were flowing and this advice pfizer recall that walls was just having a great time and they said that that energy

ended up being so infectious and that the president was in the best mood ever so much so that advisors joked at the time, should the governor be around the president more so that he can be in a good mood all the time as he seems to be whenever he sends time with them. so again, we don't know what private discussions have taken place about this vp pick between the president and the vice president. but again, we do know that there are some personal face favorites for president biden and mj lee, excellent reporting. >> thank you so much. outfront now, republican strategist, shermichael singleton and karen finney, former senior spokesperson for hillary clinton's campaigns. and hans nichols political reporter for axios han's let's start with you because you have some new reporting that all of the signs and the tea leaves are pointing to harris picking josh shapiro for bp. what is the latest on what your sources are telling you? >> well, there is a logic and there's math involved in the idea that it's going to be josh shapiro and that is that you

need those 19 electoral college votes from pennsylvania and you need someone who can deliver them. and josh shapiro sitting on a 61% approval rating. and so that's why there's seems to be this great groundswell support for, josh shapiro because they're saying he's the obvious choice. now, hear the caveats and pam, you know this as well as anyone anyone that actually knows the decision has been made here is not necessarily talking to reporters. and the very fact that the president has, excuse me, the vice president has not spoken with many of the candidates, tells you that we're just in the middle of this process. so yes, logic would apply. that's going to be shapiro, but chemistry might matter more than qualifications. and that's why these interviews are so important for potential would be vice presidents, right? >> i mean, you can have all this data on paper, all the vetting done, and then you interview, right? karen finney. i know that you've been in that process, right. and an interview can change everything. how important is that, that chemistry and just that intuition that, that harris might have when xi meets

with her candidates. >> yeah, absolutely i mean, i'm remind four years ago, i was with a small group of people who via zoom we're making the case to then vice president biden and his team for kamala harris to be his vice president. look, there are the considerations that can han's was talking about in terms of, you might look at, can they help to deliver certain states? are certain demographics. but at the same time that chemistry is the most important britain thing extra is that there's two things. the chemistry and the belief that is that person going to be a good governing partner with me and with my style of leadership. >> the second most important thing, as we know, is god forbid something should happen making sure that you believe that person would you ready to lead the country. >> and so those are two of the biggest parts of this decision you all the papers been gone

through all the data, all of that at the end of the day, it really does just come down to your gut and to the feeling that you have. if someone is going to be the right governing partner. >> before i get to use for michael and i promise i will. i want to just go back to this point about vp picks and whether they have the home-state advantage. there have been five times since 1980 that a major party vp pick has failed to win their home state, paul ryan from wisconsin, being the most recent. in 2012. so you do have to wonder when you look at that han's about whether is there too much important to be put on pennsylvania here and shapiro's ability to bring that home yeah. >> maybe. i mean, that's like the fact that stat that you just put up or powerful points and i'm sure that i don't know if tim walz bribe a producer to put that up. now, look, those are all assure you that didn't happen. >> this was my idea. >> we're. joking, where do you get your idea is a brilliant idea. i meant to say there's a brilliant point, pam.

>> thank you. i wasn't credited a conversation this is this is the conversations everyone's having is like doesn't really matter. and i suspect that to karen's broader point, it's about governing. it's about finding a partner. it's not just about the next 90 days. of course, if you want to get to the governing and you want to get to the partnership part, you gotta women next 90 days. so it may be maybe in everyone's favor middle of near-sighted right now. this is sort of when you look at the arc of kamala harris has career, what was she shoes at attorney general, who were two people on her list? former state's attorney generals, right at the state level. and then as vice president, she served as a partner with president biden as same position that biden was in under joe under god, barack obama and so she has a pretty good theory of the case of the kind of person that she wants supporting her should she win more than 270 electoral college votes. and with that sort of tough math question, i'll toss it back to you guys because this is really though for the next 90, 95 days it's about

the math and we all know reporters are very bad at math. >> yes. i for one, i can speak for myself. horrible i'm not going to kick it to use your michael on that note because there's a lot more focus on shapiro, right now and now, donald trump and his running mate, j.d. vance, are singling out shapiro. let me play what vance said today and how shapiro fonda it ms lot of talk is going to be this guy, josh shapiro from pennsylvania, who you know, i've seen this a couple of clips of him talking. he talks like barack obama. it's like it's like if i did try to do a really bad impression of brock obama, that's what it's what it would sound like is this guy, josh shapiro, bragg, obama is probably our most gifted order my time side. it's kind of a weird insults but look i'll say this about j.d. >> vance. it is real hard being honest with the american people when you're not being honest with yourself j.d. vance is a total phony baloney what's your

reaction? doesn't seem to you, you're michael that the vance trump ticket or a little bit worried about a shapiro i mean, look it's like if you're a box are going yes, it's like if you're a box of going into the match and not necessarily worried you prepare for these things and you hope that mentally that you're ready to go the long route here. but i would say jd's point of governor shapiro not being barack obama who with an incredible order or an intelligent man, one of the best presidents i think many americans would agree with lee. i'm on the conservative side of things, but he was somewhat of a moderate democrat. i think history will prove that to be true josh shapiro is not brock obama. he's not the real mccoy as they say to use that phrase, but bullet pamela, i'm looking at this differently as a strategist here, right? that philadelphia inquirer resurface some old remarks from governor shapiro where he stated palestinians will not cannot co-exist peacefully younger progressives are warning

against choosing shapiro that will absolutely become a problem for the harris campaign in states like michigan, where they're going to need about 60% of the muslim population in order to carry that state, they have to be very careful here if they're going to try to maintain that 2020 biden coalition going forward into november and it's clear that progressives want someone else because of the issues going on between israel and hamas in gaza. >> so karen, to bring you in to shermichael's point, a vp pick is supposed to do no harm, right? we're seeing what's happening with j.d. vance. everything is being dug up when he said in the past i mean, everything so what do you say to this for michael? just mentioned well, look, this is why there is vetting process and what tends to happen and remember for donald trump sort of you know, poo pooed any sort of vetting process but this is why there's a vetting process such that you know, things can be on earth. >> i believe the kind of thing that you would then take to

governor shapiro and give him an opportunity to if you want if he chooses to apologize i do believe it was an older comment of his and certainly the situation in the middle east has changed since he made those remarks. but again, this is why you have a process whereby you look at the pluses and minuses and you decide, is this something that from strategic perspective, we can deal with if it does create problems or is it something that we believe is insurmountable? look, i think josh shapiro is he's incredibly popular people like him a lot. i think, particularly given that pennsylvania borders, ohio, that's not insignificant. and look at you're right, it's a do-no-harm situation, but average just bring it back to j.d. vance and just suggest that does anybody really think that he should be president of anything anywhere ever and that reflects poorly on president on the former president for that selection.

>> final word to you, shermichael i mean, look, i think vice president harris again is going to have to be careful here. >> republicans, if she does decide to go with governor shapiro will do the mountain of opposition research i used to be an opposition researcher and they're going to run ads after ads for the next 90 plus days and states like michigan and other battleground states where there's a significant muslim poppy relation of previous comments. maybe there's some other comments he's forgotten about over the years they will dig those things up. they will resurface and they're going to target those young voters, those young progressives, which she absolutely he needs in order to get across the finish line to that magic number of 270 all right, shermichael singleton, karen finney, and hans nichols. >> it's a big weekend and veepstakes will be keeping an eye on all of that. thank you all so much. and outfront up next the americans from the historic prisoner swap are about to return to their families for the first time. what will life be like for them? i'm going to talk to an american who was held in one of the the world's most dangerous prisons. less, we have an outfront exclusive john

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going to die in putin's prison. >> i did not believe i'll ever see my wife again. i did not believe i'll ever see my family again this feels really surreal the three americans released along with kara murza are being evaluated tonight at the brooke army medical center in san antonio, texas. >> and soon they will be headed back to their hometowns our jason carroll reports from manchester, michigan, home to former marine paul whelan i just say thank you to everybody. >> oh, thank you for all your prayers, your good wishes. thanks for doing everything you did you know it all? it all helped once he was finally able to set foot back on us soil paul whelan. >> thank all those who worked so tirelessly to bring him home and reflected on what's next. now that he's a free man again, looking forward to seeing my family down here and just recuperating from five years, seven months, from five days of just absolute nonsense

by the russian government this is where he will be greeted with open arms. >> it's manchester, michigan the population about 2000 were like many small towns in america. everyone seems to know everyone. it's where wheelen's parents lives. so when word got out, he was free. many here felt like one of their own was coming home once i you really saw it in writing i can to tear like i cried for them like, you know, like what a relief what are we? please leslie kirkland owns manchester diners. >> she says, wheelen's parents are regulars. his picture posted outside yellow ribbons on trees and front end throughout town don't have been a symbol of his return. >> anybody that wants to politicize it is it doesn't matter. he's home who did who did we trade far i don't some were able to share their joy with wheelen's parents, edin rosemary. they showed up at a church ice cream social thursday night, making it all that more special for people

like brenda, my sono, and janice little. >> there were so many people talking to her and the look of relief on both the faces was a citable. and i'm so happy i congratulate them and told them how joyful. >> the community was that their son was coming dana stock well organized. >> the social at a emanuel church and got word the wieland might stop by. >> i was walking down the sidewalk i'm in. front of the church to plug up bouncy house there they were walking towards me and i just want and they went chills down my body and we hugged and i told them, you know, what a moment on moments must have been many in manchester are hoping whelan will make an appearance with his parents when he he's ready. this community really wanted paul back, and really wanted him back for both the

both the sake that paul can be back here in the united states. but for the family well as well, if he happens to pay manchester dinah rare visit, leslie kirklin will have a dish waiting. >> maybe our country fried steak and maybe some biscuits and gravy and i will be i'll hold came to a lot of, folks here, pamela, wanting to give out a lot of hugs. but the one point that i think a lot of people here wanted to make is that this isn't just not just only about the wheelen's, it's about all of those families who endured throughout all of this. and that it's not just a time for the wheelen's to be celebrating but for all those families who can finally celebrate, now that their loved ones are back home where they belong. pamela? >> is absolutely home where they belong. jason carroll live in michigan. thank you and outfront now, matthew his joins us. he's a former us marine corporal from knoxville, tennessee heath was wrongfully detained in venezuela for more than two years, accused of

terrorism. he was released in 2022 as part of a prisoner swap. or six americans were exchange for the two nephews a venezuelan president, nicolas maduro, mathew, thanks for coming on. we were just talking in the break before this how all of this in bold, he is really bringing back a lot of memories for you. all of those hometown friends of paul whelan, you just saw that piece so happy to have them home hoping to see him soon. what does that moment feel like when you first step back into your own home town and your home how pamela thank you for having me on well, watch him, paul come home. >> is it reminds me of when i came home, my my small town threw me a parade that outpouring of love and friendship from so many people. it's wonderful. it's a little overwhelming. i'm sure. pause feeling a little overwhelmed right now. but just from so much love and friendship that are, that poor around, from, from around the world to him right now. >> when did it start to sink in for you that you were free and could go back to living your life you know, it took a little

over a year for me to really feel like i was at home. so i would encourage paul to take his time we're a little over a year. i mean, you experienced a lot of unimaginable things in prison who were stripped naked, electrocuted, you were threatened with rape but how much of your experience? >> do you carry with you and your day to day even now well, a wrongful detention is not a problem that can be fixed. there's a before there's an after so this is something that you carry with you for the rest of your life but like anyone who has something negative, very negative happened to them. i i choose to not allow that to define me. this isn't the only thing that's ever happened in my life, so i don't i don't base my identity on that i'm a united states marine, paul whelan is a united states marine. we're in a brotherhood and you know, what, what did they teach us in the marine corps just keep driving on and

you certainly have done that with your own life a special presidential envoy for hostage affairs, roger carstens help secure your release as well as the release of gershkovich, whelan, and kurmasheva. and here he is with brittney griner, i believe we have a picture of that. you actually spoke with carstens last night. what did he tell you about these newly freed americans well, ambassador carstens is a personal friend of mine, and he's an absolutely amazing person. >> his nicknames captain america. we speak often we don't go into the details of the current trades just because it could jeopardize the actual trade until they're an american soil. we keep everything really quiet but roger, roger said that everybody that was flying back was smiling and very happy. >> we do know. i mean, it is so, so positive and happy that we've got these americans back, right? that is certainly cause for celebration, but we do know there are other americans who are still

wrongfully detained including marc fogel and russia. here's what his sister said about him being left behind speaking with erin last night it's been one of the most frustrating times of my life to not he heard or taken seriously he's fallen multiple times. >> it's very cold where he is and there's lots of ice and things are just not going well for him what is your advice to her and to mark into the others who were are held in wrongfully detained and their families well, i'd like to say to them to all the families and to all the detainees out there that you can trust that i know the process is difficult. i personally can say it's very difficult to go through, but you have roger carstens working

on this and there's nobody in the world that i would rather have working these issues. my advice to the families specifically is it is critical that your family member is designated as a wrongful detainee under the levinson act and allows the u.s. government so much, so many more options for their release alright. >> matthew heath. thank you for your next an outfront exclusive, john hinckley, junior, the man who tried to assassinate former president ronald reagan, speak it's out against political violence. his first interview since trump's shooting is next plus the judge in trump's election interference case is back in control and ready to jump start proceedings could trump be back heading back into a courtroom. we're going to talk about that up next. so stay with us dash was a very physical sport i get

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quote, should have had eyes on the roof where the shooter was perched and he said local law enforcement was not to blame in any way what do you wild is outfront whitney. this is some of the strongest, most direct language we've heard yet about the failures the secret service acting director ron rowe provided much more detailed today about some of the breakdowns here. >> and one of the major breakdowns here was communications and what ron rowe revealed today was that the radio communications seemed pretty scattered. some people were using radio, some people were using text messages, some people were making phone calls. and the problem here, pamela, was what we learned today was that there were basically two command posts. there was a single command posts where the local one law enforcement was they called that the unified command post, but there was another room, the security room where the secret service at a pennsylvania state trooper were station those two rooms were not on the same radio, so they weren't hearing in real time that local law enforcement was looking for that suspect. and

what we know is that that is critical because there was a radio transmission that went out about 30 seconds before the shooting, but that was on the local radio channel. that information never got to the secret service, and that information was critical because that's when local law enforcement realized that man had a gun. so that was critical information that never made its way to the secret but surveys, because they were not on the same radio. we also learned today, pamela, that that rally was the first time that secret service snipers were accompanying former president trump, to a rally like that. then finally, pamela, there's a big question about experience and accountability here. and director roe made very clear that no one's going to be disciplined or placed on administrative leave until after these investigations are finished and only upon information that warrants being either on administrative leave discipline, are holmes lybrand asked more specifically about the experience of the pittsburgh field office, and that's really critical, pamela, because as you know having covered the secret service and covered the white house, that those events are

run by the local field offices we asked today with the experience of that field this was it's difficult for them. >> they feel like they let their colleagues down. they feel like they let the country down. it's an open wound but they're carrying there are very experienced office and what i will say is they are cooperating with the mission assurance they understand the gravity of this situation and they are definitely, definitely down right now many more questions to answer. >> pamela, we'll keep on it back to you. >> i know you will. what you wild. thank you so much. and tonight, an outfront exclusive, erin burnett spoke with john hinckley, junior all right. so the man who attempted to assassinate president ronald reagan, this is sink li's first interview since a man shot and tried to assassinate former president trump. and tonight he is calling for an end to political violence.

here's arun with more on that message and hinckley story starting when he shocked the nation and clearly changed the course of american history hinckley shot reagan as he left a washington hotel in 1981 of the bullets he fired punctured reagan's long and lodged just an inch from his heart. >> he also seriously wounded white house press secretary james brady, who was partially paralyzed and eventually died as a result of his injuries 3s metropolitan police officer thomas delahanty and secret service agent tim mccarthy. were also shot now a jury acquitted hinckley by reason of insanity but he spent 34 years as an inpatient at if a psychiatric hospital, he was released in 2016 and doctors at the time said he had recovered from mental illness two years ago. all court restrictions against him were lifted. and john hinckley junior joins me now, john it's fascinating to speak to you tonight after

thomas matthew crooks shot tom, you spoke out, you posted on social media, you said violence is not the way to go give peace a chance. why do you feel the need to speak out? >> well, erin, i feel the need to speak out because this country is just in a really bad place right now. there's so much violence, so many guns and, it's, just really fraught time right now in america. and i wanted to do speak out is someone who knows a little bit about what happened because of what happened with me in 1981 i wanted to speak to the american public and just tell people to please try and reject violence to bring peace and love into their life i know you have expressed remorse for trying to kill president reagan, but of course it is surprising and uncomfortable for many people to hear you even now, commenting on the assassination

attempt on trump, who are you hoping to reach most with your message just anyone and everyone who is out there in it's going through hard times. back in 1981, i was going through really hard times and of course i always thinks it turned out differently. but if i can reach people who are struggling in their lives and maybe, maybe looking for the right way to go. i'm just here to tell you to please please go the right path and reject violence in just trying love your neighbor and love yourself trump was the first us president to be the target of an assassination attempt. >> since you tried to kill reagan, that was 43 years ago so what did you first think when you heard trump had been shot what i was really sad i wish it hadn't happened. >> i just so phil to since the sadness that it happened again after 43 years but i just truly

wish it had not happened then you know, god bless the people who were injured. and of course, the man who lost his life bless them. and i'm overall i, just felt a sense of sadness you i know continue to take medication, anti-psychotic drug, and antidepressant, and you've said you're no longer a danger to society why do you believe that? well, i've demonstrated it for many years now. i've been i've been a free man since 2016 when i got my released from the hospital and day after day, i approved that. i'm not a dangerous man. i live a peaceful life and trying to contribute to society in a positive way and we have a film coming out a document, documentary of my life that will be coming out august 30.

i'm hoping people what we'll watch that because it shows my the way that the way that i live now and how i'm trying to move forward with my music and my art. >> let me ask you about that, that documentary is upcoming. of course, it focuses on what you're doing now and your life, and also on what led to the attempted assassination of reagan. also talks about your attempts now to overcome mental illness, to pursue a career in music and the life that you live with your cat. let me play a clip of it. >> i feel terrible that i shot four people. yes. i have a tremendous remorse and what i did. i don't have to dwell on it, but i do have tremendous remorse for what i did in 1981 when you were granted an unconditional release and all the restrictions were lifted on your movement, on your speech, on your life. >> patti davis, ronald reagan's daughter, wrote this. i'm sure you've seen. i want to read it. she writes now, there is another fear that the man who wielded that gun and almost got his wish of

assassinating the president could decide to contact me there is no manual for how to deal with something like this. you just have to live with the fear and the anger and the darkness that one-person keeps bringing into your life. does it impact you to know that it is you who bring this fear and darkness to her well, i mean, i have no no patti davis she has nothing to worry from me. >> it is i have no interest in patti davis, to be honest. but yeah, i wish i mean, i'm trying to bring a sense of light to the world today. i'm trying to bring a positive message out now with my, music and my music is central to your life. >> now, you've brought it up now twice, and i know you play the guitar. >> you have an album, but there are also times you can't perform because of your name and your past, your history, the threats she receive how do

you think about what the rest of your life will look like? >> i hope i can start performing in venues. i've been i've been blocked from many venues from performing. they booked me into the venue and then the venue starts getting backlash and then the owner of the venule cancels. this has happened about 12 or 15 times. so i'm hoping very soon i can start performing in venues keep putting song's out there and hope that people can hear my songs and hear my message of peace and living in a nonviolent way and so you hope for a redemption? yes, i do. my tour. my tour. if i if i ever get this tour going there's going to be called a redemption tour what john thank you very much. >> i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you era. >> and outfront, next, trump's election interference case tonight is back with the judge.

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appointed judge katelyn polantz is outfront, so kaitlan, the big question will judge chutkan jumpstart this case? >> well, pam, she is poised to, but she hasn't done anything yet so today was the day that the supreme court formally told the lower courts of its opinion in this case and is giving their opinion down to the appeals court to hand back to judge chutkan only one court at a time is allowed to be handling the case. and so we had to wait for this procedurally to happen before judge chutkan could take things up again and move things closer to a trial. now, we should be really clear. there is no trial on the calendar and no no trial is expected at all. before the election because there's so much work that's going to need to be done in the coming days. we are expecting, judge chutkan to say what she wants to do. she could ask both sides to come in and tell them what they think should happen next. and then we could be seeing deadlines. we could be seeing

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a good camila impression. >> but the laugh you've got to start off like it's a big energy and then you really said it's like but then also you got to get the cadence, okay. let me be clear let me be clear. >> the cadence so important that harris herself has said she likes impressions of her, mr. vice president, i'm speaking namely from snl's maya rudolph. i grew up watching saturday night live. yeah. so the thought that anyone would be in any way depicting me on saturday night live was just i was a bit overwhelmed. harris's pop culture relevance has exploded in the last largely thanks to viral memes pop star charli xcx gave the vice president the ultimate effortless cool girls stamp of approval by posting just three words on x, camila is brat a play on the singer's latest album, which propelled harris

into the gen z conversation culture stuff gets a little silly like could that have some downsides? sure. but that's also what movements are about. there are creators, their artists, there are people who write songs. so that is all all left to them and she'll do what she does best, which is just say, if you elect me, here's what i'm going to do. >> well, let me just tell you something. >> i have my mother's last harris you can no apologies for her style jones be confined to other people's perception strategist, 0.2 that's pop culture success in pushing harris to lean into the moment. what's your message for her? >> camila if you're watching, please let me introduce you at the dnc i made i it is so spot on. >> wow. elizabeth. so allison, recent comedian, you profiled

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